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- Subject: Re: Info on being a Systems Programmer/Analyst?
- Date: 29 Mar 1996 04:11:34 GMT
- Message-ID: <4jfntm$l0m@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
- References: <4itd85$28s0@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <Doo5o5.CB4@presby.edu> <4jbsgb$rhh@scoop.eco.twg.com>
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- In <4jbsgb$rhh@scoop.eco.twg.com>, mike@jake.eco.twg.com (This space intentionally left blank) writes:
- >In article <4j9hol$3so8@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, tnagy@ibm.net writes:
- >>In <4j96mq$3sd@scoop.eco.twg.com>, mike@jake.eco.twg.com (This space intentionally left blank) writes:
- >
- >>>Sorry, if you write parts of the OS, you are a "system programmer". That's
- >>>the accepted definition in the industry.
- >>
- >>By this definition, EVERYONE who has ever written a half-decent application
- >>for PC DOS is a systems programmer.
- >Yeah, an "MS/DOS Systems Programmer". Big deal. It takes about a week to
- >learn to be a system programmer for MS/DOS
-
- Picking on poor MS-DOS 'systems programmers, eh?
-
- I hate to say it, but truth is that according to MY definition of being a systems
- programmer, most MS-DOS, OS/2, Linux, Windows USERS could be regarded as
- systems programmers (i.e. they make the users, programmers = themselves
- happy). Now this whole issue is getting really twisted...
-
- >Systems Programmers tend to be more platform-specific, and/or OS-specific,
- >than applications programmers. An MVS System Programmer will not be any
- >better at VMS System Programming than the average VMS applications
- >programmer and probably much less so, since he'll need to learn to use basic
- >utilities before he can do anything useful.
-
- Almost certainly 'much less so'.
-
- >>I can live with it too (especially since this month's internet bill is going to
- >>put me in the red :)).
- >
- >Umm...don't you have a fixed price connection? My home address costs me
- >$19.95 a month, unlimited shell access (4 hours of SLIP or PPP included, $1
- >an hour for more, but I've never needed more).
-
- My ISP is IBM and they are not particularly cheap but I cannot complain about
- busy lines (none so far) or anything really (except the price). It costs me
- $29.95 Canadian (approximately $21.968325 US :)) for 30 hours and then
- $1.50 CDN ($1.10025 US) for each additional hours. To be honest it will not
- put me in the red but my boss (=me) keeps complaining about wasted time
- on the net :)
-
- > -- Mike "if not, consider opening a business! ;^)" Bartman --
-
- Tom "been there done that"
-
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